A podcast station of Collective Çukurcuma

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Welcome to CC Station! An ongoing never-ending existential conversation between two monstrous ladies and others)—full of disorder, fragments, failure, humour, frustration, and amusement.

Our station is a gathering of everyday and uncommon (unconventional) conversations with artists, writers, thinkers, activists and mostly friends on topics like collaboration, collectivity in and around art.

Categories for our upcoming episodes;

Question Game
One Afternoon
Invisible Cities
In the Garden

Keywords and key topics of the station;

various ways of collaborations, connections, networks, thought experiments
art as a social experiment
queer issues
breaking the binaries
everyday conversations on and around art
focusing on many at the same time
emptying and refilling norms, notions, concepts, words
learning while doing
dream machines
possessions, obsessions and addictions
humour as a coping mechanism
alternative communities
missing (personal) archives
recipes for hungry minds
where speculative, fantasy and science fiction meets art
#question game
a place to be both too loud and too silent
too funny and/or too serious
a helpless, hoping hope on the loop, in the chain
a messy garden for fragmented souls
a room for one’s own own
where Roberto Benigni is dining with Donna Haraway
where Etel Adnan is going for a walk with Ursula K Le Guin

*Where is CC STATION?
CC STATION is a temporary-nomadic station where you stop to buy a bottle of water on a deserted highway and find yourself thinking about how to pronounce “Çukurcuma” while googling easy homemade simit recipe.

**CC STATION cover art and intro sound design by Berlin-based artist Zeynep Özkazanç aka zoka @zozkazoz

***We are working on four different jobs to sustain the new chapters of our lives in London and San Francisco while missing Istanbul dearly. Therefore we won’t be able to reply to each individual messages, but we appreciate all different voices, feedback, criticism, reviews and suggestions. Please do write to us and hopefully, we’ll get back to you sooner than expected.

Episode 1 : One Afternoon with HazMatLab (Sandra Havlicek, Tina Kohlmann and Katharina Schücke)

Episode 2: Conversation with Nicky Broekhuysen

Episode 3: Conversation with Ogulcan Ekiz

Breaking a world record of saying “copyright” a thousand times in one podcast – come on in! How to pronounce DAOs? What happens when a judge decides what art is? We talked about conjunctions where art and law meet and dines while mentioning the future of copyright/s with Oğulcan Ekiz. Important note: Oğulcan had to re-record two of his answers as we had an issue with the microphone while recording this episode.

To download the podcast info sheet –

Episode 4: One Afternoon with Walid Siti

We spent an afternoon together with artist Walid Siti while he was working on his new installation (titled the Third Life) in this enchanted garden part of his home in London. While constructing the levels of the Third Life he kindly shared the story of his everlasting relationship with the Malwiya Tower (the minaret of The Great Mosque of Samarra) and his profound interest in mountains.

Episode 5: Conversation with Anna-Lena WernerAnna-Lena Werner is one of the most inspirational women that lead our collective’s way and interpose our dark thoughts whenever necessary in the most magical way. She is a dear friend, a curator, a writer and an art historian, currently living and working in Berlin. Having studied art history, theatre studies (Freie Universität Berlin) and art theory (Chelsea College of Art and Design, London), she completed her PhD in 2019 at Freie Universität Berlin with the study “Let Them Haunt Us. How Contemporary Aesthetics Challenge Trauma as the Unrepresentable” (transcript, Bielefeld 2020). We started our conversation from the day we met in Istanbul and how it leads us to collaborate until today through collective exhibitions, and talked about her journey with the online art platform artfridge, on trauma and its representations in contemporary art and friendship. Please see more about her book and all her other project in this podcast’s info sheet. Enjoy!

Correction: 13th Istanbul Biennial we referred in the conversation took place in 2013, not 2014.

Links may be useful –
On 13th Istanbul Biennial –
Point Project:
Let them haunt us – How Contemporary Aesthetics Challenge Trauma as the Unrepresentable by AnnaLena Werner

Season 2 Episode 1: Conversation with Burong

Migration Matters Festival 2018

Burong (曾不容) is a Live Art practitioner-researcher whose work deals with the politics of intimacy, gut feelings and posthuman ethics. She has exhibited and performed in the UK and internationally. She has published books, articles and recently finished a three-year interview project with performance artists and curators based in Europe.

Notes for the podcast:

WIP exhibition:
Performance Non-Taster:
The Big Feast (1973):
Anatomy of Hell (2004):
The Love Witch (2017):
Ten Days (1975-78) performance by Stuart Brisley:
Marisa Carnesky’s online Live Archive:
Instant Ramen Noodles:
White Russian recipe:
Burong’s website:
Burong’s Instagram Account:


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